Bible Talk

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On this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted, Josiah Walker and Bryan Catherman talk about another podcast. 9Mark’s offers a podcast called “Bible Talk,” and these guys think it’s worth checking out. This is a podcast worth listening to, and it's also a great opportunity to study the Bible alongside the episodes. Bryan shares this simple study method that will greatly bless any student of the Bible. Subscribe to SaltyBeliever wherever you get podcasts or listen here:

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On Premium Bibles

A person can spend, $250, $400, or even $1,000 for a Bible. They’re called premium Bibles, and there’s a lot that goes into one of these high-end Bibles. What’s the deal with these Bibles, and should a Christian spend money on one? That’s the topic of this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted. Bryan Catherman and Josiah Walker weigh in. What’s the nicest Bible you own? Listen to this episode wherever you get podcasts or listen here:

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After MacArthur: Transitioning Well

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After the passing of John MacArthur, the big question becomes, “What will the transition look like at his various ministries?” MacArthur was the Lead Pastor of Grace Community Church and the Chancellor of the Master’s Seminary. What’s going to happen there? This then raises another question: “What’s it going to look like when the Boomer generation Pastors exit their pulpits and positions and the next generation comes in. What does it look like to transition church leadership well? That’s the topic of this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted. Subscribe and listen to Salty Believer Unscripted wherever you listen to podcasts or listen here:

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Biblical Theology as a Study Tool

Biblical theology is a useful tool for Bible study and should be readily available in the toolbox of any student of the Bible. But what is biblical theology? How does it differ from systematic or historical theology? In this video, Bryan Catherman shares some resources for beginners, looking to learn more about biblical theology and understand how it's used for good Bible study.

The books mentioned in the video are What Is Biblical Theology?: A Guide to the Bible's Story, Symbolism, and Patterns by James Hamilton Jr., God's Big Picture: Tracing the Storyline of the Bible by Vaughan Roberts, Biblical Theology in the Life of the Church: A Guide for Ministry by Michael Lawrence, According to Plan: The Unfolding Revelation of God in the Bible by Graeme Goldsworthy, Read the Bible for Life: Your Guide to Understanding and Living God's Word by George H. Guthrie, and Reader’s Guide to the Bible: A Chronological Reading Plan by George H. Guthrie.

Should We Trust the Bible?

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With all we know about the Bible, one question remains: Can We Trust the Bible? Should we trust it? Many people say no. Bryan Catherman and Josiah Walker say we can and we must. In this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted, they discuss why the Bible is trustworthy and why we must depend on what it says. Subscribe and listen wherever you get podcasts, or listen here:

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The Bible: Aspects of God's Word

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As their discussion about the Bible continues, Josiah Walker and Bryan Catherman chat about aspects of the Bible. What are the key characteristics of the Bible? What do they mean, and why are they important? What are inerrancy, infallibility, clarity, reliability, sufficiency, and authority for example? What have been the past arguments about aspects of the Bible? What are the arguments focused on today? This is the conversation of this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted. Subscribe and listen wherever you get podcasts, or listen here:

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The Bible: From Then to Now

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How did the Bible we have today evolve from the tablets of the Ten Commandments to the plethora of economy Bibles, mass-marketed and translated into multiple languages, now sitting on shelves around the world? It’s a message that was superintended and protected by God, but the Bible did develop from stones and parchment to the paper Bible we have today. That’s a long journey. In this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted, Josiah Walker and Bryan Catherman discuss the journey of the Bible from then to now. Subscribe to Salty Believer wherever you listen to podcasts, or listen here:

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The Bible: The New Testament Books

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The Old Testament instructs not to add anything to the canon, but the New Testament includes additional books. What’s going on here? Were those Old Testament authors only talking about individual books? Is it okay for God to add more books? How do we have these books, and how do we know we have the right ones? Can more still be added? In this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted, Bryan Catherman and Josiah Walker talk about the New Testament canon. Subscribe and listen to Salty Believer Unscripted wherever you get podcasts or listen here:

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The Bible: The Intertestamental Period

As Josiah Walker and Bryan Catherman discuss the question, “What is the Bible?” they’ve hit the intertestamental period, otherwise known as “the quiet years.” What do the quiet years have to do with the Bible, and how is it helpful to understand what was happening during that time? In this episode, they discuss the significance of those years to the Bible we have today. Subscribe and listen wherever you get podcasts, or listen here:

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How Can I Delight in the Law? (Psalm 1)

In his comments on Psalm 1, Charles Spurgeon says, Psalms 1 and 2 are "the text upon which the whole of the Psalms make up a divine sermon." It seems clear that Psalm 1 serves as the instruction or reading strategy for all the Psalms. But the best part is that it's not a command to obey, but to delight. There's a profound difference.

God's instruction to Joshua in 1:7-8 is similar to Psalm 1 in that Joshua was instructed to meditate on the Law day and night. Kings, too, were instructed to read the Law throughout their lives and be guided and shaped by it (Deuteronomy 17:18-20). Yet, the call to "delight" was not as straightforward as is found in Psalm 1. And it's not God himself this Psalm calls its readers to delight in, but the Law of the Lord. Not even Psalm 111:2 calls for delight in the Law, but in God's past acts! Typically, it's God who delights in His people throughout the Old Testament, but here the people learn they can find delight in the Law.

While much can be said of Psalm 1--its structure, blessing, and so forth--I'm most interested in this call to delight in the Law. How were the people in the time the Psalm was written to understand this instruction, and how do we, who are free from the Law to live in Christ, still find blessing from Psalm 1:2?

Those who first sang or prayed this Psalm could take delight in the Law because having the Law meant they had a divine Law-giver who desired a relationship with them. Without the Law, there was no way to come in contact with God. Unclean things were doomed to destruction. But the Law provided a way for unclean things to become clean, and clean things were then offered a way to be in contact with the Holy. God's blessed provision for this was the Law. To believe this was true and sacrifice an expensive bull demonstrated faith under the Law, that it would do what God promised the Law would do.

Furthermore, the Law offered the people wisdom and guidance. It was a light to their steps (Psalm 119:105), a source of wisdom and understanding (Deuteronomy 6:24-25), and a path to blessing, not burden (Deuteronomy 30:19-20). Following this wisdom brought joy, comfort, and a relationship with God, all of which are blessings.

However, with the Law came an awareness of our greater problem. The Law is not the problem--our sin is the problem, and the Law exposes it in us. So, while the original audience could take delight in God's salvation through faith by trusting God's Law, it was God's means to show his people the need for the Perfect One who follows Psalm 1 perfectly. And even trusting God to reveal this truth from the Law is reason to take delight in the Law, knowing that a loving God keeps His promises, even as far back as Genesis 3:15. The delight flows from relationship, not performance.

A Christian under the New Covenant can take true (and a fuller) delight in the Law of God, as instructed in Psalm 1, through a gospel-shaped, Spirit-empowered understanding of the Law. This view is rooted in union with Christ, empowered by the Holy Spirit, and oriented toward communion with God.

Jesus is the final aim of the Law (Romans 10:4). He fulfilled it perfectly (Matthew 5:17) and bore its curse (Galatians 3:13) on our behalf. Therefore, the Christian no longer relates to the Law as a covenant of works and obedience, but as a pattern for sanctified living fulfilled by our loving Savior. Romans 8:1-4 shows that the righteous requirement of the Law is fulfilled in those who walk according to the Spirit. While our delight still flows from relationship rather than our performance, we also take delight in Jesus' performance under the Law in our place.

Now the Law is written on our heart (Jeremiah 31:33 and Ezekiel 36:26-27). Now we can say with Paul, "I delight in the law of God, in my inner being" (Romans 7:22). But like Paul, we see that the work of God's grace is not complete in us. The Law still exposes our sin, but that is a gift!

Far too often, Christians are taught that the Law is bad. Typically, the Law is associated with legalism. But if God wrote the Law on a redeemed believer's heart, and if Jesus perfectly fulfilled the Law, it's not a bad thing to be feared. We're still called to delight in the Law, but we can only truly do so when we see it as a gift of God and fulfilled by Jesus. We're freed from the curse of the Law to live in the blessings of the Law.

On the opposite side of legalism, Christians run to antoninianism. Thinking they are freed from something bad, they toss out the Law. If a Christian does this, there's no way to live out Psalm 1. One could say they meditate on God's Word, but God's Word does not exclude the Law, and this Psalm. So, what is this Christian to do? The answer is found in Psalm 1.

Psalm 1 because it portrays the Law not as a burden or curse, but as the path to blessing, joy, and stability. The blessed Christian delights in the Law of the Lord and meditates on it day and night. This is not legalistic obligation but relational devotion. Psalm 1 invites the believer to see God's Law as the means to communion with Him, shaping our affections and direction. The imagery of the tree planted by streams of water (v.3) reveals that delighting in the Law is not about earning life, but about being nourished by God's Word. The tree didn't earn its place there. It was planted there, and this is the description, not a prescription.

Psalm 1 confronts both legalism and antinomianism, rebuking the self-righteous who believe they can merit blessings through their works, and it rebukes the lawless who reject God's revealed will. Instead, it calls the Christian to walk in the way of the gospel. Here, delight in the Law flows from a heart transformed by grace. In Christ, the Law is no longer a curse to fear or a system to master, but a revelation of the character of God we love, a path in which we joyfully walk by the Spirit. Psalm 1 presents the redeemed with a picture of true life — anchored in the Word, rooted in grace, and flourishing in communion with God.

The Bible: Do We Have the Right Books?

In this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted, Josiah Walker and Bryan Catherman discuss the books of the Bible and how we know these books belong in our Bibles and others do not. How do we know we have the right books? What’s the standard? What’s the canon? What were the very first written words of the Bible, and who wrote those words? Listen to this episode wherever you get your favorite podcasts or listen here:

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The Bible: A New Series Introduction

We’re launching a new series to explore the question, “What is the Bible?” Join Josiah Walker and Bryan Catherman as they discuss the Bible. What is the Bible? Where does it come from? Is it God’s Word? How do we know we can trust this book? Does it contain errors? In this series, they’ll discuss these questions and many more. Subscribe wherever you get podcasts or listen here:

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Media and the Bible

In this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted, Josiah Walker and Bryan Catherman discuss media and the Bible. Specifically, what are we to think when we see biblical material expressed on various media? What should Christians do about The Chosen? How about the King of Kings? The Ten Commandments? What about Disney’s Prince of Egypt? Should Christians watch The House of David? And how could we forget Russel Crowe’s film, Noah? That’s the topic of this episode. Listen wherever you get podcasts or listen here:

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Context: Should a Church Have More Than One Service?

Join Josiah Walker and Bryan Catherman as they deal with the question: “Should a church have two or more services?” Mark Dever has made this a popular question. If a church has two services, does it have two churches? Not only do the guys deal with this question, but also with what time the service should be, on which day, and many more related questions. How might context shape these questions? That’s the topic of this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted. Subscribe wherever you get podcasts or listen here:

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The Benefit of the Mid-Week Bible Study

Josiah Walker, Bryan Catherman, and Daniel the Intern discuss the value of the mid-week Bible study. Have these meetings run their course, or is there still value in doing them? How do we get the most out of them? What are they for? Do I have to go to a small group Bible study?

They also answer the question, “What is a Salty Believer Unscripted intern, and what does this intern do?” Daniel is our newest intern and they took a moment to chat with him about the Salty Believer Unscripted podcast. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts or listen here:

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Where's the Holy Spirit in the Old Testament?

Is the Holy Spirit in the Old Testament? What was he doing before Jesus gave him to the disciples? This is the question sent to Bryan Catherman and Josiah Walker. So on today’s episode of Salty Believer Unscripted, the guys are dealing with a mailbag question. What was the Holy Spirit doing in the Old Testament? How should we think about the continuity of the Bible and the operation of the Holy Spirit before Pentecost? Subscribe and listen to Salty Believer Unscripted wherever you get podcasts or listen here:

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Getting More From the Sermon

On this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted, Josiah Walker and Bryan Catherman discuss how to get the most out of the sermon. We’ve already discussed some tools, primarily following the "Listen Up!” book by Christopher Ash. In this episode, we’ve explored additional tips and ideas for building on what Ash provided. Should I read commentaries? Study Bibles? Should I ask my Pastor questions about the sermon? What are other ways I can get the most out of the sermon? They address these questions and many others. Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts, or listen here:

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Should I Attend a Funeral for a Nonbeliever?

Graveside funeral and casket.

Should a Christian go to a funeral for an unbeliever? What should we think about celebration of life services compared to traditional funerals? Is this like going to a same-sex wedding? Am I supporting something that I shouldn’t be supporting, or is this an opportunity for me to display my faith? How should we think of funerals for nonbelievers? That’s the topic of this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted. Subscribe and listen to Salty Believer Unscripted wherever you get your podcasts or listen here:

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A Missed Opportunity: King of Kings (Angel Studios, 2025)

Angel Studios released an animated story about Jesus called "King of Kings." The movie features a cast of well-known actors and Charles Dickens' work serves as its base. But still, the movie missed a significant opportunity and fell short of sharing the biblical gospel. Instead, Angel Studios made it weird.

Using Charles Dickens as the narrator of Jesus' story launched this movie in the wrong direction from the start. I highly commend Dickens for using his abilities to do his best to disciple his children. He wrote his children a 127-page book of simplified and retold stories from the Gospels, creating a novel-style synthased story of all four gospels. Unfortunately, he did not understand the gospel. The closing charge to his children in the book reads,

"REMEMBER! -- It is christianity TO DO GOOD always--even to those who do evil to us. It is christianity to love our neighbour as ourself, and to do to all men as we would have them DO to us. It is christianity to be gentle, merciful, and forgiving, and to keep those qualities quiet in our own hearts, and never make a boast of them, or of our prayers or of our love of God, but always to shew that we love Him by humbly trying to do right in everything. If we do this, and remember the life lessons of Our Lord Jesus Christ, and try to act up to them, we may confidently hope that God will forgive our sins and mistakes, and enable us to live and die in Peace. THE END." (Life of Our Lord, Westminster: Philadephia, Penn, 1934)

On pages 27-28, Dickens argues that there is hope for the poorest of the poor, saying, "The most miserable, the most ugly, deformed, wretched creatures that live, will be bright Angels in Heaven if they are good here on earth." For Dickens, salvation is about doing more good than evil. It's a works-based salvation plan. Dickens emphasized Jesus' kindness and moral example for his children but dropped much of the more profound teaching about sin, judgment, and the theological depth of the miraculous signs. Dickens presented Jesus as a gracious healer and moral teacher, not the exposer of our sin or the Son who glorifies the Father through suffering and grace.

The movie "King of Kings" ran with a moral story and added a little weirdness of its own. Of course, there will always be Hollywood choices when a narrative goes from one medium to another—in this case, from the written word to a movie. This is expected and often not an issue when those choices involve unclear, unstated matters in the written medium. Such decisions were plentiful. At other times, artistic choices communicated some sort of message. For example, at Jesus' baptism, a spiritual-like dove came out of Jesus and went up toward heaven. On page 23 of Dickens' book, it is clear that the Spirit descended down on Jesus like a dove. This strange addition was all Angel Studios. Another odd moment turned Jesus into Charles Dickens and back, for no apparent reason, although clearly, Angel Studio was trying to make some statement with the change.

Other additions and changes brought more shortcomings to the theological presentation. For example, at one point in the movie, the disciples notice a blind beggar and ask the famous question, "Who sinned, this man or his parents?" Jesus' response was shocking as he said, "It doesn't matter if this man or his parents sinned." He went on to say that the man was blind so we can learn that having faith is what heals—faith in what and why wasn't made clear. Dickens didn't include this story in his book. This was an Angel Studios add-on. But sin does matter. While the disciples misunderstood the cause of his blindness, Jesus' point was that sin is universal and God's sovereign purposes stand above human assumptions, not that sin “doesn't matter.” Jesus has the authority to forgive sin, and the blind receiving sight was a sign to validate that Jesus is the Savior who fulfills the Old Testament promises.

When Jesus was about to be arrested, Peter wrestled a guard's sword out of his hand, and in the skirmish, the man's ear got cut off. It seemed clear that Angel Studios did not want to give Peter a sword. Dickens had no problem with Peter taking a sword with him. It was "his" sword in Dickens' account. Many minor details seemed just a bit off, but this particular one was a change against what the Bible says.

Most of the time, the movie hinted at things but did not offer any clarity. At one point, the Dickens child was processing the reality of Jesus. He was sad and struggling with Jesus' death and resurrection. Artistically, the boy was underwater, sinking as Peter did in an earlier scene. Then, a hand comes into the water to save the boy, and it seems that, like before, Jesus will pull the boy out of the water. Instead, they trade places and Jesus sinks as the boy heads up. Jesus ends up dead on the cross when he is at the bottom. Nothing was said, and this was the closest thing to explaining a substitutionary atonement anywhere in the movie. It was one of many missed opportunities.

At this point, readers might ask why I'm so negative about this movie. It's not worse than watching the next “Mission Impossible” movie, right? Wouldn’t this be better? Maybe. There statement is is both true and untrue. If one is going to watch a film for entertainment, it may be better to watch something with more redeeming value than less. It may be better to watch more wholesome entertainment than much of what is out there.

On the other hand, if the movie claims to be telling the story of God, salvation, and the redemptive work of Jesus Christ but poorly represents all of it, we have a problem on our hands. Unknowing people could go into the theater, hear an incorrect gospel, and then mistakenly follow a good-works, high-moral plan for salvation that does nothing to move them off the road to hell. That's a big problem. If they don’t know Christ, they still don’t know Christ. Only now, they have a substitute and they’ve are less likely to hear about the biblical Jesus.

While I would love to recommend a story about Jesus in the movie theater, I hesitate to recommend this one. It doesn't get the gospel right and opens the door to a truckload of other potential issues. Instead, open your Bible and read the gospel as the good news of God’s redemption meant to be encountered. Rest in it. Delight in it. Be thankful for what God has already done and give yourself to Jesus. Salvation is not about doing good or feeling sad at the right moments. It is a matter of trusting in the finished work of Christ, crucified and risen, for the forgiveness of sins. Anything less—anything else—is not the gospel.